New details revealed for EPCOT's new nighttime spectacular Luminous debuting late 2023 at Walt Disney World

SoFloMagic7 hours ago

It also screamed of the age it was made - it forced diversity in an attempt to show how welcoming Disney is. But rather than using... the theme park it's in which happened to be built to show diversity and togetherness across cultures... They used the lion king to represent an entire continent. It was a hardware failure and a content failure. Just a nightmare. Thank God we have a show now that remembers what park it is in and has more reasonable hardware.

Bocabear3 days ago

Some shows just don't work... That was one of them... It felt like a movie clip show...it didn't feel right for the park. The pacing was terrible... a collection of random Disney IP songs with a big finale moment with each song so that after three of them it was just repetitive...It did not feel like a story...which is what a show usually has...some sort of an arching through-line to make it feel like it is going some where...building...a journey.... That show had none of that. I noticed people around me, after the third pointless song and "finale moment" started fidgeting and looking around...away from the show... Looking disinterested... I noticed of course because it had lost my attention too. It was new technology...all new hardware....unfortunately the show gave away all the wow moments early in the game...so that then, it just became repetitious.. I saw another show that was just like this at Shanghai Disneyland a few years ago... Too many cartoon clips, ponderous poorly paced show that just seemed to go on and on... I was thinking it was the new trend... then Luminous replaced Harmonious... and it was a lot better. Same problem plagued Rivers Of Light... Too many clips, too much forced IP... when it could have been something original and beautiful...

MisterPenguin3 days ago

In the lead-up to Harmonious, various Imagineers and PR people gave differing account about what Harmonious was all about: It's about joy in music. (The PatF song was overworked and overwrought leading to the opposite of joy.) It's about international unity with Disney songs in different languages. (The Aladdin song representing Near East culture was... problematic.) It's about dance uniting all people. (Only one song was danceable.)

osian3 days ago

Harmonious was a Disney movie clip show with no relevance to EPCOT. They tried to make it relevant by forcing natives of countries around the world to sing western Disney songs. This completely missed the target. That doesn't say celebrating other cultures to me at all, it's more how to abuse them and introduce western pop culture to them. Regardless of the oft-quoted reasons for scrapping Harmonious (sightlines, reduced restaurant takings) I'm sure there was a certain amount of irrelevancy backlash that has been heard and Disney is not going to admit that publicly. I present Journey of Water as evidence...the IP is nowhere near as in-your-face as previous efforts. The IP-based refurb of SSE has been scrapped, together with the IP Play pavilion, and a Mary Poppins focus for the UK pavilion. (Although I will probably be proved wrong when the next annoucement is IP-heavy). Luminous is a more fitting show for EPCOT, it celebrates humanity. That is the core of what EPCOT is, for both World Showcase and what was originally Future World. It's quite telling that you mention the only EPCOT relevance are the beginning and ending songs, i.e. those that are original and not coming from Disney IP. Whichever angle you take, trying to make Disney movie IP fit into EPCOT is like pushing a square peg into a round hole.

Touchdown3 days ago

What exactly was the message/story of Harmonious? There is no overlapping narration to elevate it above a clip show. The only successful modern show that lacks a plot or a clear thematic thread is vanilla World of Color which gets away with it because the tv show was a Disney variety show and even then it has its theme song as a beginning and closing number to tie it all in. Harmonious didn’t have that.

Jedi143 days ago

Some complaints for Harmonious honestly confuse me. How is it an advertisement for Disney IP when all current nighttime shows around the world have IP. Harmonious seemed to fit more for Epcot and World Showcase than what Luminous currently does with the exception of the beginning and ending songs.

Bocabear3 days ago

Harmonius had to be the worst Disney show I had ever seen....and with all of that gigantic advanced tech...it was like they forgot to write a show... I am glad the giant rigs are gone, but feel like all of that technology could probably have created an amazing and engaging show... but what they programmed was a poorly paced 30 minute advertisement for Disney IP... I am surprised they didn't move the entire system over to DAK but then write a proper show for it...

flyerjab3 days ago

I really like this show. I want to stay to see it like I used to with Illuminations. Harmonius was like a huge Disney movie advertisement. It rang hollow. Luminous has emotion. I really feel something when I watch it. And the launch tower used in the later part of the show is really something to behold.

Vinnie Mac3 days ago

Harmonious felt like a show that could exist in any park if the physical space for was it available. Luminous, in the same way that ROE did, feels like it could ONLY belong to Epcot. That is without a doubt EPCOT's show

Vinnie Mac3 days ago

It's one of those shows that makes you WANT to stay in or around the park to see it at night. For Epcot, Harmonious was enjoyable to me but not to THAT extent realistically but Illuminations always made me feel that way and so does Luminous. My first time seeing it I just KEPT rewatching my videos of it the next day even when we were in Hollywood Studios. Was so happy when we caught a glimpse of it waiting for Fantasmic lol

waltography4 days ago

I absolutely adore Love the Memory (I tear up still thinking about the song) but the fireworks package leaves something to be desired + the actual viewing experience for Momentous in person was even worse than HEA for me crowd-wise. To me, Luminous is a good Epcot-flavored show in context of the park it was designed for much like Momentous is a good castle show; Momentous would stick out like a sore thumb in Epcot as much as Luminous would in any castle park.

SoFloMagic4 days ago

Except fireworks. And the original song is debatable. I think beating of our hearts is stronger personally.

trainplane34 days ago

Nah. Even with RoE, I wasn't a fan of that. It was parked next to AA most of the time at least and that's fine.

ToTBellHop4 days ago

They could display DIS stock prices on such a globe throughout the day. Shareholders need to know and shouldn’t need to whip their phones out. Where does Josh even put his phone in those tight jeans?