First Permits Filed for Disney World's New Cars-Themed Area, Replacing Tom Sawyer Island

Disstevefan17 minutes ago

FTFY ;)

Brer Panther1 hour ago

Let's see, which IPs currently have attractions at Walt Disney World? Underlined IPs have attractions in two different parks, and I'm not including stuff that's under construction or in development like the Indiana Jones and Encanto takeover of Dinoland or the Cars rides... - Aladdin - Pirates of the Caribbean, sorta? The attraction came first, so I'm not sure... - The Princess and the Frog - Peter Pan - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Dumbo - Winnie the Pooh - The Little Mermaid - Beauty and the Beast - Alice in Wonderland - Toy Story - Monsters Inc. - Guardians of the Galaxy - Encanto (assuming you want to call the stage show at EPCOT an attraction) - Finding Nemo - The Three Caballeros - Frozen - Ratatouille - The 2013 Disney Channel Mickey Mouse shorts - Star Wars - Indiana Jones - The Twilight Zone - Avatar - The Lion King - Dinosaur, sorta? (the attraction opened first, but the movie was in development at the time) Now, let's compare that to Disneyland's list: - Indiana Jones - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Peter Pan - Pinocchio - Alice in Wonderland - The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad - Dumbo - Toy Story - Finding Nemo - Pirates of the Caribbean, sorta? - The Princess and the Frog - Winnie the Pooh - Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers - The 2013 Disney Channel Mickey Mouse shorts - Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Star Wars - Monsters Inc. - Guardians of the Galaxy - Spider-Man - The Incredibles - Inside Out - Cars - The Little Mermaid There are actually lots of IPs that aren't represented at Disney World yet, whereas at least FIVE IPs (soon to be eight) that are represented in more than one park. You already listed The Incredibles, Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6, Coco, and Lilo and Stitch, but off the top of my head there's also no representation of Inside Out, The Jungle Book, Hercules, Mulan, and Elemental. None of which, to bring this back on-topic, would fit in Frontierland, admittedly. Also, I know you were just joking, but I would much rather have Cars in Frontierland than The Simpsons. I wonder if The Lion King's having the misfortune of being released after Disneyland Paris' failure and Eisner started cost-cutting played a part in that.

Lilofan5 hours ago

That’s true. I have stayed in Fredericksburg VA hotel stopping through. The owner operator said he has seen a free fall of missed business from Canadians. His hotel was a popular halfway stopping point for travelers from Ontario driving to FL.

Lilofan5 hours ago

If you’ve the money , time and agility to enjoy and experience the parks , great for you. Life is too short and YOLO.

Mr. Sullivan5 hours ago

I do not say this in defense of him, but I do think Disney fans sometimes need to realize that we do indeed have it better than a lot of folks do when it comes to the leadership of the thing we love. You're right, enough is never enough, but we could have someone a lot worse on this front than him. Bob Iger has a long, long list of issues. Lots of things that I and many others dislike him for, maybe even feel stronger than dislike for. But he also was not the worst case scenario for Disney when he got this gig and he is not the worst case scenario for it now. He is not a creative, but he is someone who has a long history with the company and he does value the company to some degree. If he didn't, he wouldn't have used his tenure to do the things that he did. Not all of those things were successful or good, but it would've been incredibly easy for him to take the job, do absolutely nothing, and leave with his millions, but he had enough interest (I won't say care per say, but interest I think is appropriate) in the brand to continue to try and evolve it. He is very motivated by earning money (as he was hired to be), but he has also been very willing to spend it. And while in some cases that has gone awry, in some cases it has brought us some wonderful things. There are some CEOs out there of major entertainment companies who just take and gut and run. They don't spend, they don't maintain, they don't do anything but chew down to the bone and then throw the body away when there's no more meat left. Like at people who were SeaWorld fans and the state their parks are in these days. It could be much worse for Mouse fans than it is. That is not me saying we need to accept every poor choice leadership makes. Not at all. He has done a lot of really awful things, and he deserves to be questioned for it and they should indeed be a discussed part of his legacy. But it would do all of us well to remember that outside of our bubble, we could've gotten a lot worse than we did. Iger came to power at a time where it was not at all uncommon for outside raiders to come in, take control, squeeze all the juice out, and leave the company to die. The fragile state it was in when Eisner left made it a ripe candidate for that. I think it's very easy for us to say it's the worst because it's happening now, but I do think in ten, twenty, thirty years from now, Iger's legacy will not be seen as a complete negative. It will be seen for what it actually was which was a period of highs and lows that were reflective of the changing world that it existed within.

BrianLo9 hours ago

Ya that might have factored minorly, but I just don’t think there’s a hit out on “Americana” anywhere in the company. Tiana is still also very, very American. I think most of the creative company still highly values the Americana tilt it has. Dinoland USA was just a case of it always being poor. I also agree on international optics. But that doesn’t have anything to do with those in the parks but rather those visiting the US to begin with.

HMF9 hours ago

I guess so but TSI is based on a book which has a sister book that uses certain very offensive words. After Splash, I can't help but be paranoid about these things.

HMF9 hours ago

Well, many Canadians and Europeans for that matter are deliberately avoiding this country right now for obvious reasons I won't get into here.

TrainsOfDisney9 hours ago

There are certainly places that kinda feel that way at MK - especially compared to Disneyland and Disneyland Paris. Disney World as a whole is still a great place to visit though and still has some very charming areas.

BrianLo9 hours ago

That would certainly apply to the Villains half of this project, but not their nascar cartoon. I just don't think this was a considered factor for this removal. I'd say Radiator Springs, the land, is the single best "Americana" thing of the last ?30 years worldwide out of Disney parks.

SpectroBro10 hours ago

Yep. And I hate it.

Chi8410 hours ago

I don’t think it’s sterile and soulless. It’s still a great time.

THEMEPARKPIONEER10 hours ago

Before the pandemic in 2020 I walked out of the magic kingdom ending my night with the kiss goodnight as I walked out, I had a strange feeling that my great times in that park were coming to an end and that the Magic Kingdom part of my life is over. I walked out set in never returning and doing new things including Disneyland. What makes me sad is I thought I left a place someone else would someday stumble upon and experience what I did but it seems to be so sterile and soulless now.

Dreamer1910 hours ago

So, as an immigrant, my experience and understanding tells me America is and will always be the greatest country in the world. Secondary to that, travelers from many other countries, particularly Japan, love the Americana. Lastly, to those who don’t have a positive opinion of America, I’ll tell them what I used to tell my fellow Canadians who would crap on America: “Yeah, but you still go to Walt Disney World every year.”