Peter Pan's Flight Reopens with Updated Native American Village Scene at Magic Kingdom

Tony the Tigger18 days ago

I’m sure they never ate, and chickens were plentiful in the sea, anyway.

Dear Prudence19 days ago

This? This isn't it, kids.

Dear Prudence19 days ago

Some of the most successful pirates in history were women. Just because they fumbled the opportunity with changing Redd doesn't mean they weren't on the right track.

Bocabear19 days ago

what about clocks , paintings, and bric-a-brac? lol

Raineman19 days ago

There is some history with pirates engaging in human trafficking, more along the lines of using prostitutes to make money, but even if it wasn't 100% historically accurate, it fits with what pirates actually were-they were outlaws and criminals. They weren't nice human beings, and they would never be selling chickens.

V_L_Raptor19 days ago

Got to see this in person the other day, and speaking just as an observer, the whole arrangement looks like trying to improve on what was previously there with constraints from what's still there. The first thing that hit me was how tremendously low animation the whole ride is. Easily the most kinetic element (to me, anyway) is having all the pirate ship vehicles dangling from the ceiling. The scenes themselves are fairly static; by extension, so is the tribe scene. As far as that goes, first off... I don't remember figures in any of the "islands" being quite as large as these are. That surprised me, but it's been ages since I've been on this ride, so that may just be me. But the scene's animation, or lack thereof... I'm not sure how much of an improvement they could have done with scene selection while getting a decent representation of movement with the ride's overall (mostly static) animation style. Either because they were retrofitting existing mechanisms or because they chose to keep the scene relatively low kinetics in keeping with the rest of the ride, there's really not too much they could use here to get a good representation of Fancy Shawl. If you count the drummers as a single mechanism (hey, maybe), that's a grand total of two elements in the whole scene for them to play with. Since they went with drum beats for the audio there, animating striking the drum seems like a no-brainer. That leaves them one more mechanism, and I can't imagine they'd want a completely static Tiger Lily after the previous version of this scene. Ribbons would have been great, but I wonder how long it would take for them to start looking like strips cut from a Swiffer duster. (Proactive maintenance on these classic dark rides... ain't.) Adding animation for Tiger Lily's arms and legs to really show off the dance would've been a lot more movement than any other scene in this ride has. They could've had a (slow) animation in the shoulders to move the arms, but for whatever reason, they came up with a turntable to have her whole body move while keeping her joints static. I can't defend it, except to say that if the whole ride sucks for movement, additions would need to suck, too, just to fit in. Beyond that, if it has to fit the constraints of the ride, what's there looks better to me than what was there previously.

osian19 days ago

They invented the original tupperware party, didn't you know?

Bocabear19 days ago

the other thing is this was an indigenous tribe of Neverland.... not an indigenous American tribe...From the original book illustrations it was clear the inspiration was a romanticized view of an American tribe... any sort of accuracy seems wrong in a complete fantasy piece that basically takes place on another planet. The new scene looks fine, but why didn't they base it on the dance between Peter Pan and Tiger Lily?...something that happened in the actual film instead of something off-model.

Tha Realest19 days ago

This is an important question, given Disney’s recent history in this regard. https://www.fodors.com/world/north-america/usa/california/experiences/news/disneyland-resort-tenaya-stone-spa

DisneyCane19 days ago

Since this change allows Peter Pan's Flight to remain mostly as it was, I'm fine with it. At least they didn't decide the whole ride needed to be rethemed like Splash. In this case, there was something potentially offensive IN the ride that they altered.

TrainsOfDisney19 days ago

I’m fine with the change, I’m ok with the previous version as well, and I’d also be ok with only showing the teepees or replacing the scene altogether. I did like hearing from members who are Native American and hear thoughts on the new scene from them - it kinda sounds like the new scene creates as many problems as it solves.

Bocabear19 days ago

I don't think Pirates were often selling chickens and housewares... I could be wrong though.....

Tony the Tigger19 days ago

You sure?

Ice Gator19 days ago

it’s not that deep