New Permit Filed for Magic Kingdom's Frontierland Train Station Amid Railroad Route Changes

Jun 19, 2025 in "Walt Disney World Railroad"

Posted: Thursday June 19, 2025 9:40am ET by WDWMAGIC Staff

A new Notice of Commencement was filed this week with the Orange County Comptroller's office for a project at Magic Kingdom's Frontierland Train Station, coming just after Disney confirmed the upcoming route change for the Walt Disney World Railroad.

The notice, filed under the general description of “Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction,” offers little detail but is tied to an address that matches the Frontierland station location.

This development comes as Disney prepares to suspend the railroad's full-circle route beginning July 7, when the Rivers of America, Liberty Square Riverboat, and Tom Sawyer Island permanently close to make way for the park’s upcoming Cars-themed land - Piston Peak.

While it’s not confirmed whether this Notice of Commencement is directly tied to the planned changes in train operations, the timing and location suggest it could involve electrical or infrastructure updates needed to support the shift to limited shuttle service between Main Street, U.S.A. and Fantasyland stations. With the Frontierland section temporarily bypassed during the multi-year construction period, Disney may be modifying systems or closing off access at the station as part of the transition.

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    lazyboy97o2 minutes ago

    No, it is not. All mobile order requires complete restriction of access to only those with a ready order. Discouraging access without food is in place and has been in place, at Disney and elsewhere. The change is caused by the discouraging and prohibiting of access.

    Chi8411 minutes ago

    There’s more than enough for probable cause here.

    lazyboy97o12 minutes ago

    Correlation is not causation…

    Chi8418 minutes ago

    I’m comparing it to times when we walked around with trays full of food past multiple people saving places for the ones in line waiting to order food. With mobile ordering you go in, get your food and the find a seat. You didn’t have to compete with people in line well behind you whose family members were saving seats.

    AidenRodriguez73143 minutes ago

    I think we should definitely get off the mobile order topic but it’s definitely easier to find seats from how I remembered going before mobile order as there’s not a ton of people waiting in a seat doing nothing in the 10-15 minutes it can take for 1 member to get food for all of them. They show up, walk up to the counter, get their food and sit instead

    LSLS45 minutes ago

    You have said multiple times mobile ordering has resulted in it being easier to find seats, including when you quoted Lazyboy who was talking about less dining capacity. My question is what are you comparing it being easier to find a seat to? I'm just not convinced that mobile ordering is the reason (or at least the main reason) it's been easier finding seats.

    TheMaxRebo1 hour ago

    In general, sure ... But if I knew we I want lunch at a popular place, say Woody's, I will definitely get that mobile order in by 10am for pickup at 12:30 rather than wait on line

    AidenRodriguez7312 hours ago

    Only planning I really did on my days was LL and what attraction I would rope drop. Everything else was just doing what I wanted at the time/finding room for other stuff. I got through every single ride at HS, every ride at AK (plus a few of them 2-3x because I ropedropped), every ride except Mission Space at Epcot because I don't like Mission Space, and every ride but the flat rides + Winnie the Pooh at MK because they weren't a priority. It isn't some major planning thing. I ate snacks at almost every land in the park with a lunch at Peco's and dinner at Caseys.

    AidenRodriguez7312 hours ago

    Meticulously planned? Come on. I was just at the parks, I saw there was a longer wait to something I really wanted, I know the nearby M.I.L.F is gonna take about 20-30 minutes which allows me to get back within the window. That's not really planning, just common sense.

    Bocabear2 hours ago

    When we were there last month, the restaurants were all mobbed, reservations were difficult to get, and QS restaurants were packed... Also wait times for rides were very long... If there are fewer, you could never prove that by my experience... We did used to have Tomorrowland Terrace, and a few other places to help balance out restaurant crowds....but not anymore... We are just starting to feel like going to WDW is becoming a lot less fun... Too much planning, too many people, lines are more than double what we used to experience back in the early to mid 2000s...and somehow it feels like the more they build, the more they close, leaving the place always feeling unpleasantly mobbed.

    Chi843 hours ago

    No that’s not my argument. I think the place is plenty crowded. I was referring to other posters in different threads. It does sound pretty absurd, I admit.

    LSLS3 hours ago

    Less crowding from when compared to when? The problem with your argument here is that based on the latest attendance figures we have, you need to compare finding seating now to finding seating in 2012. There were almost 9,000 people on average every day in 2019 compared to 2023. That's a lot of extra people trying to find lunch at MK between 11 and 1, with like 4 places to do it at. It's possible mobile ordering helped. But it's also very possible there are just less people than what you remember from years ago.

    Chi843 hours ago

    The operational change is that when people are called and sit, that is their place in line. Their food is ready to pick up and eat. They are not saving a table for 30 minutes while a family member is waiting to order. This is an ancillary benefit of mobile ordering, not its essence. Disney can gatekeep the registers and force the whole party to enter the dining area together after ordering but that is less popular than ordering elsewhere, picking your time and doing something other than waiting in line to order.

    Disney Analyst3 hours ago

    I had zero issues with Mobile ordering everything last summer at Disneyland. Even easily changed times when an earlier slot opened up.