Thanksgiving Crowds Push Disney World Lightning Lane Premier Pass to All-Park Sell-Out

Chip Chipperson10 days ago

I used LLPP for the first time last week - Sunday in Epcot and Friday in MK (bookending a Wish sailing). It was certainly convenient to not have to worry about return times selling out or conflicting with other plans - and since Friday was our debarkation day, it allowed us to do a lot in a relatively short amount of time. We were celebrating a family member's graduation, so this fit the "special occasion" rule my wife and I enacted when LLPP was announced. With the cruise eating into our park time, it worked out well for us. We didn't arrive at MK until after 11 AM and still hit everything we wanted to. We started in Adventureland and worked our way around and did Jungle Cruise, Pirates, TBA, lunch break for some of us while the teens rode Tron and Space Mountain), Buzz, MILF, 7DMT, Pooh, Peter Pan, Small World, and Haunted Mansion all before 6 PM. After that we had dinner at Be Our Guest and decided to skip the last few remaining rides because thunder storms were moving in and we decided to not chance getting soaked. By my count tracking our waits vs the posted wait times, we saved 267 minutes (closer to 350 minutes for those who rode Tron and SM while us creaky-backed people ate lunch). I know posted wait times are often overstated, but at least 7DMT and HM had lines that looked much longer than their posted waits based on my previous experience (and we had experienced multiple standby wait times earlier in the trip at DAK that were longer than posted). In Epcot the previous Sunday, my estimated time savings was 220 minutes total for Spaceship Earth, GotG, Mission: Space, Soarin', Frozen, and Remy leaving us plenty of time for all of the festival food booths, topiary displays, and photos we wanted. Frozen went down at least twice that day and we managed to squeeze it in between those issues, so I'm not sure how much that impacted the wait time's accuracy. Overall, it was worth it for this trip - the prices weren't near their max and this was a special occasion for our group. It's definitely not something I would make a habit of doing as someone who visits multiple times per year, but it definitely made the trip better. Had we been staying at WDW all week instead of just before and after a cruise, we likely wouldn't have bought LLPP since we would have had EEH at both parks. We probably would have just added park hoppers to the tickets for the non-passholders in our party and added 2-3 days to the tickets with LLMP for DHS (skipped this time to avoid the May the Fourth crowds).

Splash4eva30 days ago

Than Thank you! Will take a look

Purduevian30 days ago

https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/lightning-lane-drop-times.984387/ I haven't updated it in months so I don't know if it is still accurate. Not going to lie, I did the work for it for my trip last November and figured I would share it with the forums (I also put it on Reddit), but I don't plan on updating it regularly. It's not to hard to do though if anyone wants to try to to update it. Using thrill data, it's pretty easy to spot trends. This is TSM for example. Anytime there is a consistent jump to Yellow or Green on most of the days, that's a drop time.

Splash4eva30 days ago

Yes TP i was a member of and it worked like a charm each trip this past one in February was not at all successful only finding a few openings during the trip

Splash4eva30 days ago

Thank you will take a look

nickys31 days ago

Touring Plans “liners” keep an updated list. And for a while here I think @Purduevian had one running.

MickeyLuv'r31 days ago

there's thrill ride Data. Some rides have a long list of potential drop times, but only some of them happen. TRD appears to have updated their list since just a few weeks ago. Previously, they had some of the drop times highlighted, which I took to mean the more likely drop times.

MickeyLuv'r31 days ago

Android here

JD8031 days ago

This is not how you do statistics.

Splash4eva31 days ago

Do we have an updated list and inventory drops?

Splash4eva31 days ago

Disney has their reasons and whatever they are we will never know. We can guess but most likely never know but imo no wait line posted 60 minutes should never be off more than 10. No wait time of 45 should be off more than 5. Anything 30 and below should be accurate. So on and so forth with longer yet every person i talk with who goes all say same with more inflated wait times. Even if its to make the guest “feel good” its still a “deceptive” practice. And honestly. If you are a multi billion dollar corporation with a name like Disney (at least what it use to mean) and you need to inflate wait times to increase guest satisfaction you better re think your strategy Robert…

Splash4eva31 days ago

Apple here if that helps…

MickeyLuv'r31 days ago

A number of forum members thought reforming/reducing DAS would fix the problem. I also think how much times are off can be characterized in different ways. If the posted wait is 10minutes, and actually is 5, ten we could characterize the posted wait as only off by 5minutes, or we could say the posted wait was half the actual wait. Both would be correct. There is also the challenge of how to characterize some of the pre-shows like GoG and Rise. How often are any of us here willing to test the wait for accuracy when it is over 60minutes? I think most of us here know basic park touring strategy, so we don't get in line for 7D when standby waits are at their daily peaks.

nickys31 days ago

I don’t know how it works. But I know people who do pick up LLs as a result of drops - unless of course it’s pure coincidence that they are ready to do so at specific known times and get lucky.